Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Create opinion topics, Prediction/Recap Videos and share mma news from Sherdog, Cagepotato, MMAmania, MMAfighting, Yahoo Sports, MMAjunkie, Bloodyelbow, ...

Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Kronlk » May 15. 2012, 01:09

My decision to write an account of what happened this weekend is not to answer to the detractors of myself or my team, as no explanation is owed them. It is instead based on my acknowledgement and respect to our fans and supporters. I never thought I would be answering for something that happened at a grappling tournament, however with the worldwide popularity of the sport and my team increasing, I understand that our supporters need answers.

Below is a compilation of events in chronological order. I included the behind the scenes problems we had to let you, our supporters, know how things deteriorated.

Facts
In the month of February I was contacted by a Brazilian named Junior asking me if I wanted to participate in an Expo\Jiu-jitsu tournament. The goal was to put one of our team’s stars in the event to attract sponsors and ensure it was successful. The event was not that far away and they desperately needed exposure. Junior stated that he was working with my uncle Rilion and my cousin Renzo on this project and they were in fact partners. Rilion and Renzo are 2 people that I greatly admire and respect and I was more than happy to partner up with them.I discussed the idea with Nick Diaz and he readily agreed to enter in the black belt gi division. He did not seek any reimbursement. Junior thought it better for Nick to do a super fight as he thought this would be more of a spectacle and bring in more attention.Nick was not as enthusiastic but agreed on the condition that whoever was picked to go against him was not an mma fighter. He knew even a mediocre mma fighter would try to use a match and/or victory over him to further their career in mma. Nick believes a reputation as a fighter should only be earned in a ring or cage.
I relayed this to Junior and he agreed to arrange for a strict jiu-jitsu competitor.

In March I received the disturbing news from Rilion that Junior had broken his agreement with him. Rilion stated to me that Junior was registering all World Jiu-jitsu Expo names under his name alone and was no longer taking his phone calls. When contacted by me, Junior stated that he would no longer honor his financial obligations to Rilion because “Rilion was doing nothing and treats me like one of his clerks”.
He then went on a tirade about Rilion which I interrupted and reminded him that Rilion was my family member and I would not listen to someone speaking negatively about him.

This rift left me in a dilemma. My instinct was to sever ties immediately. Rilion was my original jiu-jitsu instructor and his reputation as an honest person was impeccable. On the other hand we had already committed Diaz and Caio Terra. Our removal would destroy an event Renzo provided all of the funding for.

I consulted with Rilion who advised me to move forward with the event. He was the one that had brought Renzo into this project and convinced Renzo to fund it. He also still believed in the idea of an American tournament that paid the best BJJ guys on the planet to showcase their skills. We agreed to move forward without him since at this stage Junior had entrenched himself and his removal was impossible. Lastly Rilion warned me that Junior was not to be trusted and would undoubtedly try to cheat me and Renzo.

In early April I got the call from Junior asking what I thought of a Braulio Estima vs Nick Diaz matchup. I had heard of Braulio and knew he was a formidable jiu-jitsu practitioner. I was under the impression that Braulio competed in the close to 200lbs weight category.
When I asked Junior he assured me that Braulio could weigh in as little as 175 lbs right before the match.

I presented his information to Nick who accepted the matchup and seemed happy to go against the top BJJ player in the world at that weight. Nick started training for the match and I brought up several BJJ black belts to compliment his training.

Looking through some of Estima’s youtube videos, it was soon discovered that he had in fact been planning on entering upon a career in mma. We wondered if the match with Diaz was a way to create a buzz around him and get him signed with a prominent organization.

I called Junior who assured me Estima would not be fighting in mma and that he had spoken with him and been assured he had given up on the idea of ever fighting. Junior reiterated, “Cesar I spoke with Braulio, the guy is in his 30′s, he has a family and doesn’t want to live that type of life at this stage in his life…etc”
I repeated this info to Nick. A week or so later it was all over the Internet that Braulio had joined the “Blackzillians” and was training for an mma fight. We had been lied to. Furthermore it was evident that Nick’s sole condition that he not go against a wanna be mma guy was violated and this was in fact an attempt by Braulio to ignite an mma career.Nick was to have been accurately portrayed as a fighter returning to his BJJ roots. He had even agreed to give his entire purse to charity; St Jude’s Children’s Hospital for kids with cancer. If you know the story of Ralph Gracie’s son you would understand why this charity was chosen. Nick’s name having been added to this event had saved it but now it was clear he was to be the patsy, not respected but used.

Despite all of this Nick was still going to compete. He brought up Kron Gracie and prepared himself. Around this time I was informed by Junior that Braulio wanted to weigh in the day before and not right before the match as is the custom in IBJJ competitions and Abu Dhabi. At the time Nick was about 186lbs so I consented to both guys weighing in at 180lbs the night before.

Nick boarded a plane on Friday for Long Beach having cut 6 pounds for the weigh in that night. On his way there I got a call from Junior telling me Braulio would not be making weight! ”Cesar Braulio is complaining about the weight cut. Can we have him weigh in tomorrow? He can’t make the weight tonight how about 185 in the morning?”

Nick arrives in Long Beach to the news that there will be no weigh ins that night. As a professional with over 30 fights this was the final straw. The disrespect and total lack of professionalism given him convinced him he was at a circus not a professional event.

At 3:20 in the morning I received a text from Junior that Braulio would in fact make the 180lbs weight class at 10:00AM. With no other option available I said fine I’ll check with Nick in the morning. At 10:00AM Braulio did weigh in at 180lbs but by that time Nick had already left.

Opinion
As a Brazilian I love Brazil but not all things Brazilian. In the last decade I have witnessed Brazilian cronies running the IBJJF and making it impossible for Americans to get a fair shake when competing against their Brazilian countrymen. These cronies have instituted rules to where if you miss weight by even half a pound you are disqualified and not refunded your entry fee. They gladly keep your money and treat you like crap in your country because they can. One of these cronies (Junior) decided to bend all the rules for Braulio Estima and treat Nick Diaz like crap. Sorry that didn’t work out here.

As for Braulio I still respect him as a great BJJ artist. As far as calling Nick out for a mma fight, he knows that is impossible because Nick is signed with the UFC and in mma you have to make weight when they want you to. Not when you want to. If Braulio ever finds success in mma then he can mention Nick’s name for a fight. Right now he should respect the man.

Nick is not without fault by any means. His lack of communication with his team and coach was inexcusable. This will be addressed privately.

Renzo and I have spoken and we are committed to continuing with this otherwise awesome event….without the services of Junior.

It should be noted that Nick paid to St Jude’s Children’s Hospitable the sum of what would have been his entire purse.

Thank you,
You have my apologies and my respect
Cesar Gracie


http://graciefighter.com/2012/05/world-jiu-jitsu-expo-and-nick-diaz/#more-690

User avatar
Kronlk
hofcri3
hofcri3
 
Posts: 3488
Joined: Dec 1. 2009, 23:57

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Dante » May 15. 2012, 01:28

In before the d*ck riders are out in force. Was hoping for an explanation from Nick but I guess we should be used to Caesar doing all the talking for Diaz at this point.

User avatar
Dante
MMA CHAMP
MMA CHAMP
 
Posts: 1696
Joined: May 20. 2009, 21:10
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby SakuEar » May 15. 2012, 01:32

cesar tried to make nick look good, made nick look even more ridiculous by bringing to light nick not even telling his closest friends and family what happened. big fail here by nick, and the promoter, who i still dont understand why they dont give his full name.
User avatar
SakuEar
MMA CHAMP
MMA CHAMP
 
Posts: 12448
Joined: Jan 4. 2011, 06:59

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Okstate2011 » May 15. 2012, 01:33

Quite a lengthy tale. I'm curious if this appeases any of Nick's critics on this issue. At the end of the day I don't think this will change anything. Diaz hardcore fans will always support him no matter what kind of antics he pulls (not hating on that and in fact it is quite amazing that anyone can have such a loyal fan-base), and most others outside that group will not find this explanation adequate enough to excuse his actions. My main issue is that I was expecting an explanation or apology for Nick himself but I guess I was expecting too much on that front.
"You know what I mean," or "You know what I'm saying" -Johny Hendricks when asked any question ever.
User avatar
Okstate2011
LIGHT HEAVYW. CHAMP
LIGHT HEAVYW. CHAMP
 
Posts: 973
Joined: Feb 25. 2012, 19:04

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Keeeee » May 15. 2012, 01:35

who cares it was just a match for the luls and for charity, and he even payed the charity directly out of his own pockets
enough QQ
[quote="taratada"]

This is why I am:
1. LOLing at Anderson Silva fans for thinking he will destroy Vitor
2. Placing a nice 100$ bet on V Belfort
3. Collecting 200+ $$$ in profit
4. LOLing at Anderson Silva fans even harder for being such idiots!!![/quote]
User avatar
Keeeee
MMA CHAMP
MMA CHAMP
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Jun 23. 2009, 01:35
Location: ^^

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby rique » May 15. 2012, 01:36

Okstate2011 wrote:Quite a lengthy tale. I'm curious if this appeases any of Nick's critics on this issue.


No way dude, get ready for the hatefest.

kraig7777 wrote, It would have been SO AWESOME if Chael hadn't been robbed by that early stoppage. CHAEL CHAEL CHAEL CHAEL (to infinity......)
User avatar
rique
LIGHT HEAVYW. CHAMP
LIGHT HEAVYW. CHAMP
 
Posts: 671
Joined: Feb 5. 2012, 01:16

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby traeblack » May 15. 2012, 01:39

Nick Diaz doesnt have the sack to speak for himself. I was hoping he would come out himself and say something, but i guess thats too much to ask.
Lebron James: "It's about damn time"
User avatar
traeblack
mmashare hof
mmashare hof
 
Posts: 11007
Joined: Dec 11. 2009, 19:17
Location: South Beach

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby smoke-em » May 15. 2012, 01:50

I'm glad he gave money to charity. That was an awesome thing to do and the business here does look a little shady but I'm still disappointed in him but this is nowhere near as bad as the no show press conference.
In extreme situations the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy it is necessary to act outside the law to pursue natural justice. This is not vengeance revenge is not a valid motive it's an emotional response No not vengeance Punishment
User avatar
smoke-em
mmashare hof
mmashare hof
 
Posts: 6123
Joined: Jun 21. 2010, 17:03
Location: Fire and Blood

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby designationzero » May 15. 2012, 02:11

traeblack wrote:Nick Diaz doesnt have the sack to speak for himself. I was hoping he would come out himself and say something, but i guess thats too much to ask.

You just keep on hating Trae. I am sure your funnel of condenced hate will make its way from the 214 to the 209 and affect the Dias brothers in some way. Maybe just as they go to light their bowl your hate wave will blow in and blast their flame and snuff it out…requiring that they have to spark up their bic again. Then you can laugh maniacally and bask in your triumph. Providing that you somehow found out about it, somehow. :D
User avatar
designationzero
mmashare hof
mmashare hof
 
Posts: 2572
Joined: Feb 26. 2009, 06:02
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Kronlk » May 15. 2012, 02:20

designationzero wrote:
traeblack wrote:Nick Diaz doesnt have the sack to speak for himself. I was hoping he would come out himself and say something, but i guess thats too much to ask.

You just keep on hating Trae. I am sure your funnel of condenced hate will make its way from the 214 to the 209 and affect the Dias brothers in some way. Maybe just as they go to light their bowl your hate wave will blow in and blast their flame and snuff it out…requiring that they have to spark up their bic again. Then you can laugh maniacally and bask in your triumph. Providing that you somehow found out about it, somehow. :D


Yes because wanting a explanation from someone who dun goofed is hating on someone, how about responsibility and owning up to your shit when you f*ck up? Nick Diaz can do no wrong to those fans who still cling from his sack, if GSP, Silva, Jones or anyone else did this there would be a shit storm from Diaz fans like no one has ever seen.

User avatar
Kronlk
hofcri3
hofcri3
 
Posts: 3488
Joined: Dec 1. 2009, 23:57

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Gogh » May 15. 2012, 02:50

nick diaz is a diva outside the cage 8)
based on skill set, jose aldo is the best p4p fighter in the world

"It’s a sport. Back in the UFC, when I was doing the UFC, when I was doing Pride, it was a fight. Now it’s a sport." - don frye
User avatar
Gogh
MMA CHAMP
MMA CHAMP
 
Posts: 10109
Joined: Jan 25. 2009, 07:07

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby Gollum » May 15. 2012, 02:57

First of all - As I said before, I'm not sure if Diaz cares for his fans at all. Can't remember any interview of him thanking fans or something like that. So I'm surprised that there are some of you bitching about him letting fans down. He doesn't care apparently and if you are Diaz fan you realise that. If you are not his fan, then why are you bitching about him disrespecting his fans? Can't you realise that he does not care bout you/us?

Secondly - all of you bitching about Nick not talking with his team... Are you for real? You watch mma or any other combat sports for soap opera? Who cares what are they doing and how in terms of communication. You really here to judge this guy social skills? He is a great fighter but you are rather into his life and how he deals with things outside the cage? What are you doing here?

Oh, and apparently Cesar explained to all of you, that there was no agreement between Nick and Braulio about second weigh ins. And as I said yesterday - Braulio didn't make weight on time, but this was not a surprise, as he admitted it himself.
User avatar
Gollum
WELTERW. CHAMP
WELTERW. CHAMP
 
Posts: 326
Joined: Oct 29. 2011, 02:33

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby came2kickbox » May 15. 2012, 03:01

DO you smell that ...????????
User avatar
came2kickbox
MMA CHAMP
MMA CHAMP
 
Posts: 2087
Joined: Oct 8. 2009, 15:04
Location: telling Overeem to keep his fucking hands up.

Re: Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence

Postby thundertiger » May 15. 2012, 03:09

charity got paid. man of honor. end of.

Taratada febuary 24th 2012
"All the Pro's are saying Sonnen>Silva. I've been saying Sonnen>Silva for years. But Anderson's delusional nut huggers for some reason (probably because they are delusional) think its the other way around"
User avatar
thundertiger
mmashare hof
mmashare hof
 
Posts: 2130
Joined: Jan 21. 2012, 06:37
Location: Condit>rory 2 weeks bad scifi monsters av mscaria

Next

Return to MMA DISCUSSION 3.5

MMASHARE

Our mission is to give MMA fans the power to share and make the world more open and connected for Mixed Martial Arts! MMA Forum, UFC Live Streaming and MMA Fight Videos!