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Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby jitsubr » Oct 4. 2013, 11:56

In addition to being a UFC champion and NCAA Division 1 wrestler, Cain Velasquez is now a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.

The American Kickboxing Academy standout was awarded his black belt recently by Leandro Viera.



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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby PrideFCfan » Oct 4. 2013, 12:00

Who gave him his belt? Dave Camarillo?

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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby angst » Oct 4. 2013, 12:05

good for him. the dude must be formidable.
one thing i dont get with heavyweight bjj practitioners is how they get awarded belts. ill use C V as an example but by no means mean to discredit him. hes a big guy with a very strong wrestling base, but when is that deserving of a belt upgrade and when is it on bjj merits.
full credit to velasquez however and as he received his from leandro viera, it is legit no question
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby YoungKimbo312 » Oct 4. 2013, 12:39

Cain is pretty damn good on the ground. I don't think many people thought Mir could sub him when they fought and that says a lot. He's gotten the mount a lot of times in fights
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby ohhmyGAT » Oct 4. 2013, 12:45

YoungKimbo312 wrote:Cain is pretty damn good on the ground. I don't think many people thought Mir could sub him when they fought and that says a lot. He's gotten the mount a lot of times in fights


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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby Dendra » Oct 4. 2013, 14:35

PrideFCfan wrote:Who gave him his belt? Dave Camarillo?


First thing that came to my mind, well actually first thought was "shit just got real". But seriously, it's a bit fishy that he got his black belt so close to fight vs JDS who said that he needs to rely on his BJJ more - point being it smells a bit like a marketing trick to make JDS camp believe Cain is a BJJ threat on the ground and/or capable of neutralizing JDS' offensive BJJ easier than they would've thought had he not been black belt going into the fight.

On the other hand - nobody has better wrestling than Cain in MMA. The dude manhandled Brock Lesnar who was so physically dominant and scary that everybody said he was too big for Cain, etc. until Cain proved that a smaller wrestler can win with superior skills (and Brock was a pretty high caliber wrestler, hence many thought it was an impossible combo of size and skill for others to beat).

Cain's control on the ground is excellent and his camp has excellent BJJ practitioners, so based on Cain's work ethic and the environment he trains in, it's not that surprising that he is a black belt already - keep in mind that there are black belts and then there are black belts - you don't have to be strong in every aspect to be a black belt, so we don't know how good is Cain's BJJ overall.

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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby gto364 » Oct 4. 2013, 15:13

can he at least use his bjj now? That's my only gripe with Cain, he never tries any subs.

I'm tired of yelling at the tv anytime Cain has a nice rear naked choke open for the taking
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby Dendra » Oct 4. 2013, 15:24

gto364 wrote:can he at least use his bjj now? That's my only gripe with Cain, he never tries any subs.

I'm tired of yelling at the tv anytime Cain has a nice rear naked choke open for the taking

Haha, whenever he tried those rear naked chokes he looked like a turtle trying to climb on a ball and hug it only to fall off and figure fk it, I'm just gonna slap this btch to hell - GnPs opponent into oblivion.
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby PrideFCfan » Oct 4. 2013, 16:12

gto364 wrote:can he at least use his bjj now? That's my only gripe with Cain, he never tries any subs.

I'm tired of yelling at the tv anytime Cain has a nice rear naked choke open for the taking

He prefers punching the shit out of people. Fedor did as well. No big deal really, I like seeing Cain punch people over and over until they give up.
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby gto364 » Oct 4. 2013, 19:17

PrideFCfan wrote:
gto364 wrote:can he at least use his bjj now? That's my only gripe with Cain, he never tries any subs.

I'm tired of yelling at the tv anytime Cain has a nice rear naked choke open for the taking

He prefers punching the shit out of people. Fedor did as well. No big deal really, I like seeing Cain punch people over and over until they give up.



But he could've easily subbed JDS, had a finish and maybe even sub of the night. A finish is always better than a decision.

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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby engl » Oct 5. 2013, 05:30

surely he wanted to know all about what happends vs a bjj fighter, as part of his trainin, but his wrestring and gnp is devastatin, no need to do all bjj stuff.
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby tlaloczint » Oct 5. 2013, 10:00

engl wrote:surely he wanted to know all about what happends vs a bjj fighter, as part of his trainin, but his wrestring and gnp is devastatin, no need to do all bjj stuff.

I agree with you and also maybe he doesn't feel as comfortable going for the sub, and ending up like minotauro if he's punching the crap out of someone, why go for RNC and ended up on the bottom with guard. Better to keep on top and keep doing what its working. Underestimating the other people ground game is a risky factor.
Ask matt mitrione. Nogueira, and Fedor for a example of underestimating someone ability in the ground game.
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

Postby KackalackKid » Oct 6. 2013, 12:10

Cain is a f*cking animal!! Congrats big guy
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Re: Cain Velasquez gets his BJJ black belt

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