Gogh wrote: redeyeddawn wrote: Gogh wrote:
first video, guy is a douche and likely doesnt realize the contract he signed to live on campus in a dorm. living in dorms is not the same as living in a house you own. id wager the dorm contracts have a clause in it that says a campus cop (the cop called himself an administrator) can indeed enter his dorm for any reason
second video, both parties were cool. war second amendment
I doubt any literal reason would fly that would just be asking for a lawsuit. He couldn't enter if his stated reason were because they put him on the meat fer treat program and they decided to switch all his animal based food products for celery.
I would guess the university cop entry clause would probably work under certain warranted circumstances but without a warrant. I'm sure it depends on the college though.
if a student signs something that says something to the effect of..."university administrators are allowed to enter your room at any time" then they can. dont like the contract? dont live in the dorms
we dont know too much about the situation. it appears that the dorm doesnt allow alcohol in it. if a cop/campus administrator has any suspicion of alcohol being present, then id bet they can indeed look around the room
clearly the cops were allowed in the room. i think the student thought he was being smart by questioning why they werent entering the room. at the beginning of the video the cop states he is waiting for his supervisor. this supervisor is likely the one with permission to enter anyone's room
also ive lived in both an apartment complex and a dorm that had this clause in it. both places would do periodic checks in every unit. i didnt like it but then again i signed the contract allowing them to do so
I'm not arguing all that I'm just saying a contract does not let you do whatever you want. there is almost always some type of qualifier to justify entry. I have had the manager of my apartment complex state an employee of an apartment can come in for any reason ....if they give you 48 hrs notice, but a quick look at the lease states several obvious qualifiers; necessary, or agreed upon, alteration repair or change or in the case of illegal activity among several other things. Necessary covers periodic entry in regards to maintainance of apartment facilities and equipment so your example of having your unit checked has justification.
Plain and simple if a contract has some crazy fine print saying administrators can come in literally anytime and under any circumstances then there most likely will be other holes that will keep that university from housing students related to potential abuse of such a clause. There are laws regarding apartments state by state that simply cannot be overlooked due to a contract. I would assume a dorm has some minor differences on occasion, but plain and simple a dorm or apartment complex cannot just due whatever they want based on a contract. The contract they come up with almost certainly will have to coincide with the laws related to dormitory housing and apartment housing as it pertains to the laws of a state. Otherwise I would assume the tenant or dorm student can take the owner, landlord or administration to court.
And to your last point about the officer/administrator supervisor all I wanted to point out is there is no way that individual can literally come in for any reason and anytime that would be idiotic under any situation in the united states. Under the circumstances of the video I would not be surprised if the officer/administrator can come in but that scenerio is not under any and all circumstances at any time. A patrolling university police officer had to be called in due to a legit complaint and the supervisor cop had to be called in by a lower ranking university officer.
Don't twist things good sir I am not on the side of the dorm student but I know for a fact apartments cannot override state law with a contract I seriously doubt a dorm is significantly different.